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>>> MY ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO >>> MY ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO WORK WITH MEMBERS OF BOTH WORK WITH MEMBERS OF BOTH PARTIES TO PROMOTE CLEAN AIR AND PARTIES TO PROMOTE CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER. CLEAN WATER. >> WHO DOESNT WANT CLEAN AIR OR >> WHO DOESNT WANT CLEAN AIR OR CLEAN WATER? CLEAN WATER? ID LIKE TO THINK EVERY AMERICAN ID LIKE TO THINK EVERY AMERICAN DOES. DOES. THAT OF COURSE WAS PRESIDENT THAT OF COURSE WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF TRUMP ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. AGO. VOWING TO PROMOTE CLEAN AIR AND VOWING TO PROMOTE CLEAN AIR AND WATER. WATER. BUT ACTIONS Make OVER AND OVER BUT ACTIONS TAKEN OVER AND OVER BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY MAY DO JUST THE OPPOSITE. AGENCY MAY DO JUST THE OPPOSITE. THE ROLLING BACK OF VEHICLE THE ROLLING BACK OF VEHICLE EMISSION STANDARDS FOR ONE AND EMISSION STANDARDS FOR ONE AND NOW TRUMP CRITICS — OR CRITICS NOW TRUMP CRITICS — OR CRITICS OF THE EPA ARE WORRIED THAT A OF THE EPA ARE WORRIED THAT A NEW RULE ON ASBESTOS CAN BE MORE NEW RULE ON ASBESTOS CAN BE MORE EXPOSURE.EXPOSURE. FORMER GOVERNOR TODD WHITMAN IS FORMER GOVERNOR TODD WHITMAN IS BACK WITH ME TO DISCUSS. BACK WITH ME TO DISCUSS. SHES ALSO OF COURSE THE FORMER SHES ALSO OF COURSE THE FORMER HEAD OF THE EPA. HEAD OF THE EPA. DEREGULATIONS HAS BEEN A CENTRAL DEREGULATIONS HAS BEEN A CENTRAL FOCUS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. FOCUS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. In a number of cases, IT Does SENSE. IN SOME CASES, IT Offsets SENSE. SOME REGULATIONS DONT WORK. SOME REGULATIONS DONT WORK. BUT IN THIS ONE, GETTING BACK IN BUT IN THIS ONE, GETTING BACK IN THE ASBESTOS GAME. THE ASBESTOS GAME. WHY WOULD WE WANT SUCH A THING? WHY WOULD WE WANT SUCH A THING? >> NO, YOU SHOULDNT. >> NO, YOU SHOULDNT. THE ONLY GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE THE ONLY GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE SCOTT PRUITT TENANCY WAS HE WAS SCOTT PRUITT TENANCY WAS HE WAS MORE BLUSTER AND HED SAY THINGS MORE BLUSTER AND HED SAY THINGS AND HELL ROLL BACK THINGS TO AND HELL ROLL BACK THINGS TO MAKE HEADLINES BUT HE DIDNT MAKE HEADLINES BUT HE DIDNT UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLICATED UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLICATED LEGALLY IT WAS AND HE DIDNT GO LEGALLY IT WAS AND HE DIDNT GO THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCEDURES SO THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCEDURES SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE BEING THROWN A LOT OF THOSE ARE BEING THROWN OUT BY THE COURTS.OUT BY THE COURTS. ANDREW WHEELER KNOWS HOW THE ANDREW WHEELER KNOWS HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. PROCESS WORKS. I Suppose HES A MUCH MORE STABLE I THINK HES A MUCH MORE STABLE Human being. HUMAN BEING. I Contemplate HES Succeeding MORE WITH I Belief HES Acting MORE WITH THE AGENCY THAN BEFORE. THE AGENCY THAN BEFORE. SO — SO — >> BUT WHY WOULD HE WANT TO DO >> BUT WHY WOULD HE WANT TO DO THIS? THIS? >> ASBESTOS IS JUST NOT — >> ASBESTOS IS JUST NOT — >> — THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE >> — THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SAYING BRING THAT ASBESTOS BACK SAYING BRING THAT ASBESTOS BACK TO THE PARTY? TO THE PARTY? >> WHY ARE THEY ROLLING BACK ON >> WHY ARE THEY ROLLING BACK ON ANYTHING? ANYTHING? AMERICANS DIE FROM AIRBORNE AMERICANS DIE FROM AIRBORNE RELATED CAUSES AND WE KNOW RELATED CAUSES AND WE KNOW TAILPIPE EMISSIONS ARE THE MAJOR TAILPIPE EMISSIONS ARE THE MAJOR CAUSE OF THAT AND YET WERE CAUSE OF THAT AND YET WERE ROLLING BACK THE TAILPIPE ROLLING BACK THE TAILPIPE EMISSION STANDARDS.EMISSION STANDARDS. WERE DOING THINGS THAT MAKE NO WERE DOING THINGS THAT MAKE NO SENSE EXCEPT FOR INDIVIDUAL SENSE EXCEPT FOR INDIVIDUAL INDUSTRIES. INDUSTRIES. THATS WHERE THEYRE BEING DONE THATS WHERE THEYRE BEING DONE BECAUSE THEY GO TO THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THEY GO TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF SOME INDUSTRIES. LINE OF SOME INDUSTRIES. EVEN THOUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE EVEN THOUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE BIG COMPANIES WANT TO DO THINGS BIG COMPANIES WANT TO DO THINGS RIGHT AND THEY ARE MOVING RIGHT AND THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD. FORWARD. BUT YOUVE GOT OUTLIERS AND BUT YOUVE GOT OUTLIERS AND THEYRE THE ONES TAKING THEYRE THE ONES TAKING ADVANTAGE AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE ADVANTAGE AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE THE PRESIDENTS EAR. THE PRESIDENTS EAR. >> WELL, PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES >> WELL, PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES LIKE THE CHEMICAL INDUSTRY.LIKE THE CHEMICAL INDUSTRY. HE IS CLOSE WITH DOW CHEMICAL. HE IS CLOSE WITH DOW CHEMICAL. THE ONE WHO PUT TOGETHER THE CEO THE ONE WHO PUT TOGETHER THE CEO COUNSEL CRIMINALS FOR HIM. COUNSEL CRIMINALS FOR HIM. TODAY, The tribunals have A LOT OF TODAY, THE COURTS HAVE A LOT OF POWER HERE. Supremacy Now. WEVE SEEN A FEDERAL COURT ORDER WEVE SEEN A FEDERAL COURT ORDER THE EPA TO BAN A COMMON PEST THE EPA TO BAN A COMMON PEST TIED TIED PESTICIDE THATS USED IN FRUITS PESTICIDE THATS USED IN FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, A PESTICIDE AND VEGETABLES, A PESTICIDE THATS LINKED TO CHILDHOOD THATS LINKED TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT ISSUES. DEVELOPMENT ISSUES. WHO WANTED THIS? WHO WANTED THIS? >> ITS SORT OF THIS MINDLESS >> ITS SORT OF THIS MINDLESS APPROACH TO WERE GOING TO ROLL APPROACH TO WERE GOING TO ROLL BACK EVERY REGULATION. BACK EVERY REGULATION. I AGREE, WE OUGHT TO Appear AT I AGREE, WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT REGULATIONS FROM TIME TO TIME. REGULATIONS FROM TIME TO TIME.THEY OUGHT TO BE REVISITED THEY OUGHT TO BE REVISITED BECAUSE THINGS MOVE ON. BECAUSE THINGS MOVE ON. WE FIND DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING WE FIND DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. THINGS. WE FIND OUT IF THINGS ARE WORSE WE FIND OUT IF THINGS ARE WORSE OR NOT AS BAD AS WE THOUGHT. OR NOT AS BAD AS WE THOUGHT. THATS FINE. THATS FINE.THIS SEEMS TO BE ANYTHING THAT THIS SEEMS TO BE ANYTHING THAT OBAMA DID, WELL UNDO. OBAMA DID, WELL UNDO. WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT DOES THIS WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT DOES THIS MAKE SENSE FOR THE AMERICAN MAKE SENSE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. PEOPLE. EPA IS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING EPA IS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING HUMAN HEALTH AND THE HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. ENVIRONMENT. THATS IT. THATS IT. >> DO YOU STILL CONSIDER >> DO YOU STILL CONSIDER YOURSELF A REPUBLICAN? YOURSELF A REPUBLICAN? >> IM AN EISENHOWER REPUBLICAN. >> IM AN EISENHOWER REPUBLICAN. AND I Conceive Securely THAT THE AND I BELIEVE FIRMLY THAT THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE THINGS IS ONLY WAY TO CHANGE THINGS IS FROM WITHIN. From inside. AND WE STILL NEED TWO PARTIES. AND WE STILL NEED TWO PARTIES. A THIRD PARTY HAS NEVER WORKED A THIRD PARTY HAS NEVER WORKED TERRIBLY WELL IN THIS COUNTRY.TERRIBLY WELL IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT ITS GETTING HARDER AND BUT ITS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO IDENTIFY. HARDER TO IDENTIFY. IM CERTAINLY NOT ONE OF THESE IM CERTAINLY NOT ONE OF THESE KINDS OF REPUBLICANS. Manners OF REPUBLICANS. >> THERES A VERY WELL-KNOWN >> THERES A VERY WELL-KNOWN DEMOCRAT, AL GORE WHO SAID THIS, DEMOCRAT, AL GORE WHO SAID THIS, HE, PRESIDENT TRUMP, HAS HAD HE, PRESIDENT TRUMP, HAS HAD LESS OF AN IMPACT SO FAR THAN I LESS OF AN IMPACT SO FAR THAN I FEARED HE WOULD. FEARED HE WOULD. SOMEONE SAID LAST YEAR HIS SOMEONE SAID LAST YEAR HIS ADMINISTRATION IS A BLEND OF ADMINISTRATION IS A BLEND OF MALNEVELENS AND INCOMPETENCE. MALNEVELENS AND INCOMPETENCE.I THINK THEYVE MADE SOME I THINK THEYVE MADE SOME MISTAKES IN SOME OF THE MOVES MISTAKES IN SOME OF THE MOVES THEYVE MADE. THEYVE MADE. THE COURTS HAVE BLOCKED SOME OF THE COURTS HAVE BLOCKED SOME OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AS A WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AS A RESULT. RESULT. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ALEWDING TO I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ALEWDING TO IT WITH SCOTT PRUITT. IT WITH SCOTT PRUITT. THEY Stir A Lot OF NOISE BUT AS THEY MAKE A LOT OF NOISE BUT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY GET DONE THAT FAR AS WHAT THEY GET DONE THAT WOULD HARM THE ENVIRONMENT. WOULD HARM THE ENVIRONMENT. >> IF YOU DONT DO IT RIGHT, >> IF YOU DONT DO IT RIGHT, THEN YOURE GOING TO GET THEN YOURE GOING TO GET REVERSED IN THE COURTS.REVERSED IN THE COURTS. BECAUSE THE ENABLING LEGISLATION BECAUSE THE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT SET UP THE ENVIRONMENTAL THAT SET UP THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY IS VERY PROTECTION AGENCY IS VERY PRECISE ON WHAT THE AGENCY HAS PRECISE ON WHAT THE AGENCY HAS TO CONSIDER AND WHEN AND ALL THE TO CONSIDER AND WHEN AND ALL THE RESTRICTIONS. RESTRICTIONS. YOU CANT JUST GET UP ONE DAY YOU CANT JUST GET UP ONE DAY AND SAY ASBESTOS IS GOOD FOR YOU AND SAY ASBESTOS IS GOOD FOR YOU NOW. NOW. YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS IS WHY WE YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS IS WHY WE THINK THE STANDARD — CURRENT THINK THE STANDARD — CURRENT STANDARD FOR ASBESTOS IS WRONG STANDARD FOR ASBESTOS IS WRONG AND THIS IS THE BACKUP STUDY AND THIS IS THE BACKUP STUDY THAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT TELL US THAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT TELL US WE CAN PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT WE CAN PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. PLACE. >> YOU NEED MORE THAN VLADIMIR >> YOU NEED MORE THAN VLADIMIR PUTIN POSSIBLY SAYING WE PRODUCE PUTIN POSSIBLY SAYING WE PRODUCE QUITE A BUSINESS OF S ANASBESTOS QUITE A BUSINESS OF S ANASBESTOS RUSSIA.RUSSIA. WHAT HAS YOU MOST WORRIED? WHAT HAS YOU MOST WORRIED? >> Fundamentals OF THIS COUNTRY. >> FUNDAMENTALS OF THIS COUNTRY. OUR RESPECT FOR THE INSTITUTIONS OUR RESPECT FOR THE INSTITUTIONS OF GOVERNMENT. OF GOVERNMENT. OUR CONFIDENCE IN THE COURTS AND OUR CONFIDENCE IN THE COURTS AND THE INDEPENDENT OF THE JUDICIARY THE INDEPENDENT OF THE JUDICIARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND Law enforcement officers. THE DAMAGE THATS BEING DONE TO THE DAMAGE THATS BEING DONE TO YOUNG PEOPLE IN SAYING THAT YOU YOUNG PEOPLE IN SAYING THAT YOU CAN DENIGRATE PEOPLE AND JUDGE CAN DENIGRATE PEOPLE AND JUDGE PEOPLE BY THE WAY THEY LOOK, BY PEOPLE BY THE WAY THEY LOOK, BY HOW THEY WORSHIP.HOW THEY WORSHIP. BY THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. BY THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. >> WHY IS IT HAPPENING? >> WHY IS IT HAPPENING? PEOPLE VOTED FOR THIS. PEOPLE VOTED FOR THIS. >> BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SO >> BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SO FRUSTRATED BY WHAT THEY SAW AS A FRUSTRATED BY WHAT THEY SAW AS A COMPLETE LACK OF ACTION BY COMPLETE LACK OF ACTION BY CONGRESS. CONGRESS. THEY WERE SCARED. THEY WERE SCARED. THEY WERE Upset THEY WERENT THEY WERE WORRIED THEY WERENT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE KIND OF FUTURE FOR THEIR KIND OF FUTURE FOR THEIR CHILDREN THEY HAD. CHILDREN THEY HAD. I Repute THE BERNIE SANDERS AND I THINK THE BERNIE SANDERS AND DONALD TRUMP VOTERS WERE TWO DONALD TRUMP VOTERS WERE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. THEY WERE THOSE SAME PEOPLE WHO THEY WERE THOSE SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE WORKING HARD, STAYING IN WERE WORKING HARD, STAYING IN THE SAME PLACE, NOT SEEING A THE SAME PLACE, NOT SEEING A PATH FORWARD.PATH FORWARD. AND, YOU KNOW, WEVE HAD THE AND, YOU KNOW, WEVE HAD THE BEST QUARTER, THE LAST QUARTER BEST QUARTER, THE LAST QUARTER WAS THE BEST QUARTER WEVE HAD WAS THE BEST QUARTER WEVE HAD SINCE 2014 WHICH WAS ONLY FOUR SINCE 2014 WHICH WAS ONLY FOUR YEARS AGO UNDER THE MOST HATED YEARS AGO UNDER THE MOST HATED BASKETBALL BY THE BASKETBALL BY THE OBAMA, BY THE WAY. OBAMA, By the way. ANYWAY, THATS GOOD, BUT ITS ANYWAY, THATS GOOD, BUT ITS ONLY ONE QUARTER.ONLY ONE Quarter. THERES MORE TO IT. THERES MORE TO IT. ITS ABOUT THE VERY FUNDAMENTALS ITS ABOUT THE VERY FUNDAMENTALS OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND WHAT MAKES OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND WHAT MAKES THE UNITED Mood THE UNITED THE UNITED Nation The united states Nation OF AMERICA. Position OF AMERICA. THAT PEOPLE LOOK UP TO AROUND THAT PEOPLE LOOK UP TO AROUND THE WORLD. THE WORLD. >> THE INCOME INEQUALITY DIVIDE >> THE INCOME INEQUALITY DIVIDE FUELED MANY OF THOSE VOTERS. FUELED MANY OF THOSE VOTERS. WHAT ASTOUNDS ME IS THAT DIVIDE WHAT ASTOUNDS ME IS THAT DIVIDE HAS ONLY WORSENED ..

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